Polish Cars (From Crewe Guardian)

Richard Seamon, Crewe says...
2:12pm Tue 8 May 07

To be fair Jan, whenever I go abroad, I don't pay road tax in the host country either. There are also rather more cars on the road belonging to UK residents that are untaxed, uninsured and not MOTd. Also, as yet I have not been overtaken by a Polish BMW outside the Rising Sun on Middlewich Rd nor along Victoria Avenue, 200 yards from the junction with West Street - both of which happened to me last week and both cars bore UK plates. The drivers in the Crewe area are the worst I've ever seen anywhere in this country, and that includes 6 years facing the traffic at the Dartford Crossing. In fact, the worst Polish driver I've seen recently was one using a mobile phone while not wearing a seatbelt while leaving the Tesco's car park. Of course, the law-abiding British drivers never do that, ever, not even when they're careering a 36 ton Mornflake Oats bulk carrier round the Oak Street roundabout. You can be rest assured that those "quirks" of the law apply to everyone, not least the Poles. I don't know why the Chron is allowing these frankly rather pointless and bigoted views to sully its pages.

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Richard Seamon, Crewe says...
2:12pm Tue 8 May 07

To be fair Jan, whenever I go abroad, I don't pay road tax in the host country either. There are also rather more cars on the road belonging to UK residents that are untaxed, uninsured and not MOTd. Also, as yet I have not been overtaken by a Polish BMW outside the Rising Sun on Middlewich Rd nor along Victoria Avenue, 200 yards from the junction with West Street - both of which happened to me last week and both cars bore UK plates. The drivers in the Crewe area are the worst I've ever seen anywhere in this country, and that includes 6 years facing the traffic at the Dartford Crossing. In fact, the worst Polish driver I've seen recently was one using a mobile phone while not wearing a seatbelt while leaving the Tesco's car park. Of course, the law-abiding British drivers never do that, ever, not even when they're careering a 36 ton Mornflake Oats bulk carrier round the Oak Street roundabout. You can be rest assured that those "quirks" of the law apply to everyone, not least the Poles. I don't know why the Chron is allowing these frankly rather pointless and bigoted views to sully its pages.

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Richard Seamon, Crewe says...
2:16pm Tue 8 May 07

I do beg your pardon, read Guardian instead of the opposition.

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Richard Seamon, Crewe says...
2:16pm Tue 8 May 07

I do beg your pardon, read Guardian instead of the opposition.

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Gordan, Crewe says...
12:44am Thu 19 Jul 07

whenever I go abroad, I don't pay road tax in the host country either.

This may be the case, but the question is, do you live and work in the host country or are you there simply for a holiday ? also, i presume that you have Motor Vehicle Insurance that covers you in the event of an accident abroad ? where do English drivers stand if they are hit by an un-insured polish driver in this country ? maybe you should ask the 5 residents of Brooklyn Street that recently lost there vehicles due to a un-insured polish driver driving under the influence ?

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Gordan, Crewe says...
12:44am Thu 19 Jul 07

whenever I go abroad, I don't pay road tax in the host country either.

This may be the case, but the question is, do you live and work in the host country or are you there simply for a holiday ? also, i presume that you have Motor Vehicle Insurance that covers you in the event of an accident abroad ? where do English drivers stand if they are hit by an un-insured polish driver in this country ? maybe you should ask the 5 residents of Brooklyn Street that recently lost there vehicles due to a un-insured polish driver driving under the influence ?

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Sharon J, Crewe says...
1:05pm Tue 24 Jul 07

Just for the record, when my vehicle was hit and written off by a joyrider avoiding a police block that had been erected almost right outside my house, I received no compensation. The police insisted it wasn't their fault and as the joyriders were never caught, I couldn't claim from them either. No doubt the Polish vehicles in question are adding to the problem to a slight degree but on the whole I think it's British drivers we need to be worrying about.

However, that said I'd still agree that the term for keeping a vehicle uninusured etc in the UK should be much shorter (3 months perhaps). I lived in Norway for many years and there I believe the rule was 6 months and then you'd have to take the vehicle out of the country for 6 months before it could be brought in for a new term.

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Sharon J, Crewe says...
1:05pm Tue 24 Jul 07

Just for the record, when my vehicle was hit and written off by a joyrider avoiding a police block that had been erected almost right outside my house, I received no compensation. The police insisted it wasn't their fault and as the joyriders were never caught, I couldn't claim from them either. No doubt the Polish vehicles in question are adding to the problem to a slight degree but on the whole I think it's British drivers we need to be worrying about.

However, that said I'd still agree that the term for keeping a vehicle uninusured etc in the UK should be much shorter (3 months perhaps). I lived in Norway for many years and there I believe the rule was 6 months and then you'd have to take the vehicle out of the country for 6 months before it could be brought in for a new term.

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Rob, Crewe says...
11:00am Mon 27 Aug 07

Mind you I had an English driver run into me about a year ago,she produced a certificate of insurance but when I went to claim her insurer said her policy was terminated 4 months ago, when I was left with the repair bill I tried to contact the girl but the address she gave me and the police was false and the Police said they need a letter from my solicitor saying she is uninsured which would have cost me another �250.00 because I did not have legal cover.So before you get on the Poles about driving without insurance I suggest you iron out the flaws in your procedures first.

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Rob, Crewe says...
11:00am Mon 27 Aug 07

Mind you I had an English driver run into me about a year ago,she produced a certificate of insurance but when I went to claim her insurer said her policy was terminated 4 months ago, when I was left with the repair bill I tried to contact the girl but the address she gave me and the police was false and the Police said they need a letter from my solicitor saying she is uninsured which would have cost me another £250.00 because I did not have legal cover.So before you get on the Poles about driving without insurance I suggest you iron out the flaws in your procedures first.

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Teresa, Notts says...
5:44pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Why can't road tax be abolished and put on fuel prices? That would solve foreigners and their car tax - although, not their MOT and insurance!

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Teresa, Notts says...
5:44pm Thu 6 Sep 07

Why can't road tax be abolished and put on fuel prices? That would solve foreigners and their car tax - although, not their MOT and insurance!

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Andy, Luton says...
1:21pm Sat 8 Sep 07

Hi
In Luton right next to the Airport we see many Polish cars. I think it is a disgrace that Polish peoples can come into our country and not have to abide by our laws. Then take all our housing, Doctors, and Jobs.

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Andy, Luton says...
1:21pm Sat 8 Sep 07

Hi
In Luton right next to the Airport we see many Polish cars. I think it is a disgrace that Polish peoples can come into our country and not have to abide by our laws. Then take all our housing, Doctors, and Jobs.

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Dan, Warsaw says...
12:06am Sat 15 Sep 07

As an Englishman living in Poland, I would like to point out that the tax is included in the petrol in Poland and the insurance is valid for the UK (though like many foreigners cars all over the world, irrelevant of nationality people do occasionally let it run out - not good).

Another law which is quite different is that cars not people have the right of way at Zebra crossings, therefore the person must wait until the road is clear and the cars don't need to slow down.

For quite some time, there was a road tax for foreign cars which had to be paid when entering Poland, despite the signs at the borders many foreigners (mostly from Western Europe), didn't purchase the tax and then got in to trouble with police.

Something should be done to either make people more aware of the laws in different countries or to agree an EU wide rule which would stop confusion.

Basic insurance is the only legal requirement you need to drive abroad but it doesn't mean you are covered for car accidents or theft.

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Dan, Warsaw says...
12:06am Sat 15 Sep 07

As an Englishman living in Poland, I would like to point out that the tax is included in the petrol in Poland and the insurance is valid for the UK (though like many foreigners cars all over the world, irrelevant of nationality people do occasionally let it run out - not good).

Another law which is quite different is that cars not people have the right of way at Zebra crossings, therefore the person must wait until the road is clear and the cars don't need to slow down.

For quite some time, there was a road tax for foreign cars which had to be paid when entering Poland, despite the signs at the borders many foreigners (mostly from Western Europe), didn't purchase the tax and then got in to trouble with police.

Something should be done to either make people more aware of the laws in different countries or to agree an EU wide rule which would stop confusion.

Basic insurance is the only legal requirement you need to drive abroad but it doesn't mean you are covered for car accidents or theft.

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Sebastian, northampton says...
7:58pm Sat 20 Oct 07

hello everybody!
I'm the one of that polish drivers you're just talking about. I'm kind of fresh in UK (I spent most of my life in Poland ;)) back to the topic- what happens when you really get hitted by Polish driver? have anyone of you had ever been hitted by polish driver? You really get no compenstation? I always thought that insurance companies are co-operating with each other. We've also got a lot of foreign drivers in Poland (Germans making shoppings, russians bringing petroil etc.), we don't mind them so much... living a free world.. do you mind polish drivers, workers or people? I think it's some different issue than TAX or sth. we wouldn't be here if there wasn't a job for us ;) when you'll hire yourselves in warehouses ang other **** places, having higher degree, you'll find out that we're gone unemployed. no offence, I just had two lagers ;) kind regards :D

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Sebastian, northampton says...
7:58pm Sat 20 Oct 07

hello everybody!
I'm the one of that polish drivers you're just talking about. I'm kind of fresh in UK (I spent most of my life in Poland ;)) back to the topic- what happens when you really get hitted by Polish driver? have anyone of you had ever been hitted by polish driver? You really get no compenstation? I always thought that insurance companies are co-operating with each other. We've also got a lot of foreign drivers in Poland (Germans making shoppings, russians bringing petroil etc.), we don't mind them so much... living a free world.. do you mind polish drivers, workers or people? I think it's some different issue than TAX or sth. we wouldn't be here if there wasn't a job for us ;) when you'll hire yourselves in warehouses ang other **** places, having higher degree, you'll find out that we're gone unemployed. no offence, I just had two lagers ;) kind regards :D

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Carla, Lincoln UK says...
9:27pm Sun 20 Jan 08

Dan wrote:
As an Englishman living in Poland, I would like to point out that the tax is included in the petrol in Poland and the insurance is valid for the UK (though like many foreigners cars all over the world, irrelevant of nationality people do occasionally let it run out - not good). Another law which is quite different is that cars not people have the right of way at Zebra crossings, therefore the person must wait until the road is clear and the cars don't need to slow down. For quite some time, there was a road tax for foreign cars which had to be paid when entering Poland, despite the signs at the borders many foreigners (mostly from Western Europe), didn't purchase the tax and then got in to trouble with police. Something should be done to either make people more aware of the laws in different countries or to agree an EU wide rule which would stop confusion. Basic insurance is the only legal requirement you need to drive abroad but it doesn't mean you are covered for car accidents or theft.

Fair enough each country has its own driving laws, but when other countries are coming into England to live they should have to take some kind of driving lessons making them aware of our laws. It is disgusting that they are coming here, causing accidents and not even being registered with DVLA/Police leaving us out of pocket with our insurance companies.
The rule for Polish cars being able to drive on our roads for 6 months with no tax etc is pathetic, do we not have to pay for 6 months road tax at a time? Just another way inwhich our goverment is doing more for other countries rather than our own!!!

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Carla, Lincoln UK says...
9:27pm Sun 20 Jan 08

Dan wrote:
As an Englishman living in Poland, I would like to point out that the tax is included in the petrol in Poland and the insurance is valid for the UK (though like many foreigners cars all over the world, irrelevant of nationality people do occasionally let it run out - not good). Another law which is quite different is that cars not people have the right of way at Zebra crossings, therefore the person must wait until the road is clear and the cars don't need to slow down. For quite some time, there was a road tax for foreign cars which had to be paid when entering Poland, despite the signs at the borders many foreigners (mostly from Western Europe), didn't purchase the tax and then got in to trouble with police. Something should be done to either make people more aware of the laws in different countries or to agree an EU wide rule which would stop confusion. Basic insurance is the only legal requirement you need to drive abroad but it doesn't mean you are covered for car accidents or theft.

Fair enough each country has its own driving laws, but when other countries are coming into England to live they should have to take some kind of driving lessons making them aware of our laws. It is disgusting that they are coming here, causing accidents and not even being registered with DVLA/Police leaving us out of pocket with our insurance companies.
The rule for Polish cars being able to drive on our roads for 6 months with no tax etc is pathetic, do we not have to pay for 6 months road tax at a time? Just another way inwhich our goverment is doing more for other countries rather than our own!!!

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Jim, says...
4:39pm Mon 4 Feb 08

I travel often between the UK and the continent, as I now live abroad. As a Brit. with a Brit plate I don't have to pay a road tax outside the UK, but what we do have to pay often are road tolls. The best system I think is far for all it what Austria do, and that is every vehicle driving on it's roads has to purchase a sticker from 1 week on up to a year (they also have a couple of toll tunnels). A system like this would then cover all the Polish and other nationalities, plus us Brits. Hungary, Chech and other new members states have a similar requirments when driving on their roads. You can buy this sticker at any petrol station. They then have these sensers on the roads that I gather can spot those who try to skip the road tax sticker. Also, in all countries outside the UK if the police give you a fine you have to pay it on the spot. I believe the Brit. police do not, thus allowing foreign drivers to get out of paying.

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Jim, says...
4:39pm Mon 4 Feb 08

I travel often between the UK and the continent, as I now live abroad. As a Brit. with a Brit plate I don't have to pay a road tax outside the UK, but what we do have to pay often are road tolls. The best system I think is far for all it what Austria do, and that is every vehicle driving on it's roads has to purchase a sticker from 1 week on up to a year (they also have a couple of toll tunnels). A system like this would then cover all the Polish and other nationalities, plus us Brits. Hungary, Chech and other new members states have a similar requirments when driving on their roads. You can buy this sticker at any petrol station. They then have these sensers on the roads that I gather can spot those who try to skip the road tax sticker. Also, in all countries outside the UK if the police give you a fine you have to pay it on the spot. I believe the Brit. police do not, thus allowing foreign drivers to get out of paying.

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Bikersteve, UK says...
2:36am Mon 25 Feb 08

For anyone hit by an uninsured driver or a hit and run.You should put a claim in with the criminal injuries board.Insurence companies pay into this(so you do) to cover these accidents.And by the way even if every driver was insured you would still pay into this.

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Bikersteve, UK says...
2:36am Mon 25 Feb 08

For anyone hit by an uninsured driver or a hit and run.You should put a claim in with the criminal injuries board.Insurence companies pay into this(so you do) to cover these accidents.And by the way even if every driver was insured you would still pay into this.

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louise, says...
3:17pm Thu 27 Mar 08

the law is a total ****. i am so sick of the uk. im gonna join the bnp..english people need to come first in the uk.

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louise, says...
3:17pm Thu 27 Mar 08

the law is a total ****. i am so sick of the uk. im gonna join the bnp..english people need to come first in the uk.

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sebastian, surrey says...
2:29pm Sat 12 Apr 08

Hi all!
I'm another polish driver.I trying to understan why you talk about polish drivers when some of you UK drivers don't
stop on red lights, fiting false number plates,driving after beer or drugs and don't pay tax too. Once my car was hit by UK driver with out even sorry.I'd like to pay tax but then I have to reg.my car and pay insurance in UK and it's 4600gbp because that will be my 1st car in this country and LHD.In PL I pay 600gbp 4 same car and my car is insured in all EU :)
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sebastian, surrey says...
2:29pm Sat 12 Apr 08

Hi all!
I'm another polish driver.I trying to understan why you talk about polish drivers when some of you UK drivers don't
stop on red lights, fiting false number plates,driving after beer or drugs and don't pay tax too. Once my car was hit by UK driver with out even sorry.I'd like to pay tax but then I have to reg.my car and pay insurance in UK and it's 4600gbp because that will be my 1st car in this country and LHD.In PL I pay 600gbp 4 same car and my car is insured in all EU :)
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jennifer, says...
10:47pm Wed 23 Apr 08

louise wrote:
the law is a total ****. i am so sick of the uk. im gonna join the bnp..english people need to come first in the uk.

GOOD 4 U IM GONNA VOTE 4 THEM 2,WE SHOULD COME FIRST,AND AS 4 THE POLISH GO BACK HOME!bnp SHOULD GET IN THEN US ENGLISH CAN AND WILL COME FIRST im sick 2 death of whats happening 2 ower country.

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mr houghton, blackburn says...
11:26pm Wed 30 Apr 08

IF I DIDNT PAY MY ROAD TAXS MY CAR WOULD BE TOOK AWAY.IF THEY DONT HAVE ROAD TAXS WHAT ABOUT MOT AND INSURANCE.IF YOUR CHILD GET HURT. HOW DO YOU CLAIM . PLEASE TELL ME THAT.

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Ian, says...
9:19pm Mon 5 May 08

As a member of the Forces I have now twice imported a used car into the UK from 2 different EU countries, both times I have had 30 days to get the vehicle through an SVA test ( £155), MOT and Road Tax plus buy correct lights, MPH Dials and other items to make the cars to UK standard, please help me understand if I have to do this why another citizen who resides here and brings a car to the UK doesn't have to just because they say they drive back to there original country now and again. All I would like to know is who is Policing this and additionally surely if these vehicles are adding to road wear and tear then who is paying their road tax maybe thats why tax is so expensive now, to cover these extra exempt vehicles on our roads?

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Leszek, Luton says...
9:36am Tue 6 May 08

Andy wrote:
Hi In Luton right next to the Airport we see many Polish cars. I think it is a disgrace that Polish peoples can come into our country and not have to abide by our laws. Then take all our housing, Doctors, and Jobs.

First of all Polish people not peoples....next to the airport you see many Polish cars - is that a disgrace? i am a Pole and i work at the airport...next to it all i can see are english and **** cars....nothing else so stop moaning....and jobwise....if u're too stupid to take on all those positions..someone has to eventually.....kisse
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ROY, blackburn says...
12:12am Fri 9 May 08

if you are working at luton airport. and you meet a pole called LESZEK. Tell him if you want want to work in are country pay you way. road taxs and mot and very important.CAR INSURANCE.What you going to do when you kill a child. maybe a big joke to you.But not to us,its time for you to pay your way or go HOME.

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Ian, N Ireland says...
4:39pm Sun 25 May 08

As a serving soldier, living in N Ireland but working back in England, I fly every week. And whilst I agree with a number of the points raised here, there are a number of racist bigots leaving c**p here. All vehicles should be roadworthy, we live on an ISLAND we still have control systems (not great though) that can register all vehicles as they enter the country, and buy a minimum 6 month tax(which can be refunded an a daily basis, should the vehicle leave the country), EU plates should stay on the vehicle and not changed to try and copy UK plates. Insurance can be checked, and foreign workers can register there vehicles with the local police. The points system is outdated and not a deterrent, when UK drivers are penalised twice, once by the police with a fine and the insurance company with incresed premiums.

Sorry Just Having A Rant

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