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Tories slam PM's refusal to visit Crewe and Nantwich
8:54am Friday 16th May 2008
Comments (60)CONSERVATIVE by-election candidate Edward Timpson has slammed PM Gordon Brown's refusal to visit Crewe and Nantwich.
The Prime Minister confirmed earlier this week that he would not be visiting the area in the run up to the by-election.
Commenting on the decision, Mr Timpson said: "This is further proof that Gordon Brown is taking Crewe and Nantwich for granted.
"Despite clobbering thousands of low-paid families by abolishing the 10p tax rate, he is ignoring people's concerns and refusing to listen.
"Only by voting Conservative on May 22 can people in Crewe and Nantwich send a message to Gordon Brown to get him to sit up and listen."
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Robin J., Eastbourne says...
11:48am Fri 16 May 08
Mr.Timpson knows perfectly well,or should do so, that Prime Ministers very rarely,if ever,visit constituencies during by-election times. How many times did the last two Tory Prime Ministers,Margaret Thatcher and John Major, visit by-election constituencies? So, why does Mr.Timpson keep on making such an issue of the fact that Mr.Brown has decided not to visit Crewe and Nantwich? Mr.Brown may not be as good a showman as Mr.Cameron,but do we really want showmen as leaders of our country?
I certainly do not.
I certainly do not.
Ian Sankey, Doncaster says...
11:49am Fri 16 May 08
What typical upper class tory toff. Why should Gordon waste his time debating this rich eton old boy?
Timpson may be ok with Daddy's money, but we're too busy plotting a course to get the British economy back on track from the setbacks of the global credit crunch to do this punch and judy politics.
The labour party is working for those who really matter in this land, not the rich public school boys but the union members, the single mothers and the retired.
Long may the great true red Dunwoody legacy continue.
Labour for Crewe, Labour for you.
Timpson may be ok with Daddy's money, but we're too busy plotting a course to get the British economy back on track from the setbacks of the global credit crunch to do this punch and judy politics.
The labour party is working for those who really matter in this land, not the rich public school boys but the union members, the single mothers and the retired.
Long may the great true red Dunwoody legacy continue.
Labour for Crewe, Labour for you.
Ian Sankey, Doncaster says...
11:49am Fri 16 May 08
What typical upper class tory toff. Why should Gordon waste his time debating this rich eton old boy?
Timpson may be ok with Daddy's money, but we're too busy plotting a course to get the British economy back on track from the setbacks of the global credit crunch to do this punch and judy politics.
The labour party is working for those who really matter in this land, not the rich public school boys but the union members, the single mothers and the retired.
Long may the great true red Dunwoody legacy continue.
Labour for Crewe, Labour for you.
Timpson may be ok with Daddy's money, but we're too busy plotting a course to get the British economy back on track from the setbacks of the global credit crunch to do this punch and judy politics.
The labour party is working for those who really matter in this land, not the rich public school boys but the union members, the single mothers and the retired.
Long may the great true red Dunwoody legacy continue.
Labour for Crewe, Labour for you.
paul freeman, London says...
11:52am Fri 16 May 08
Ah, Robin, but Gordon is on the canvas, and now shows lack of relish for getting up and finishing the fight, which is NOT A GOOD SIGN
paul freeman, London says...
11:52am Fri 16 May 08
Ah, Robin, but Gordon is on the canvas, and now shows lack of relish for getting up and finishing the fight, which is NOT A GOOD SIGN
Paul Okeland, Gateshead says...
11:59am Fri 16 May 08
Finally, we see the level the tory toffs scrape to.
They have no policy, no plan and no hope - they just make it personal.
Ian Sankey got it right - the Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths - they don't know what real life is like.
They have no policy, no plan and no hope - they just make it personal.
Ian Sankey got it right - the Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths - they don't know what real life is like.
Paul Okeland, Gateshead says...
11:59am Fri 16 May 08
Finally, we see the level the tory toffs scrape to.
They have no policy, no plan and no hope - they just make it personal.
Ian Sankey got it right - the Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths - they don't know what real life is like.
They have no policy, no plan and no hope - they just make it personal.
Ian Sankey got it right - the Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths - they don't know what real life is like.
Ian Sankey, Doncaster says...
12:26pm Fri 16 May 08
Careful what you say 'Freeman' (if that is really your name).
Let me put this is as simpler terms as i can, since clearly you have no understanding of the ways of things.
If you think, for one second we're going to sacrifice our country to the rich tory scum, your wrong.
We will no go back to the dark thatcher days and if need be, we will fight to keep this country in the hands of its rightful owners.
Let me put this is as simpler terms as i can, since clearly you have no understanding of the ways of things.
If you think, for one second we're going to sacrifice our country to the rich tory scum, your wrong.
We will no go back to the dark thatcher days and if need be, we will fight to keep this country in the hands of its rightful owners.
Ian Sankey, Doncaster says...
12:26pm Fri 16 May 08
Careful what you say 'Freeman' (if that is really your name).
Let me put this is as simpler terms as i can, since clearly you have no understanding of the ways of things.
If you think, for one second we're going to sacrifice our country to the rich tory scum, your wrong.
We will no go back to the dark thatcher days and if need be, we will fight to keep this country in the hands of its rightful owners.
Let me put this is as simpler terms as i can, since clearly you have no understanding of the ways of things.
If you think, for one second we're going to sacrifice our country to the rich tory scum, your wrong.
We will no go back to the dark thatcher days and if need be, we will fight to keep this country in the hands of its rightful owners.
Alex Fisher, Bury says...
12:46pm Fri 16 May 08
I am greatly amused by the irony of Labour supporters accusing Edward Timpson of 'making it personal.'
Pot, kettle, black!
Pot, kettle, black!
Alex Fisher, Bury says...
12:46pm Fri 16 May 08
I am greatly amused by the irony of Labour supporters accusing Edward Timpson of 'making it personal.'
Pot, kettle, black!
Pot, kettle, black!
Alex Fisher, Bury says...
12:47pm Fri 16 May 08
I am greatly amused by the irony of Labour supporters accusing Edward Timpson of 'making it personal.'
Pot, kettle, black!
Pot, kettle, black!
Alex Fisher, Bury says...
12:47pm Fri 16 May 08
I am greatly amused by the irony of Labour supporters accusing Edward Timpson of 'making it personal.'
Pot, kettle, black!
Pot, kettle, black!
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
1:24pm Fri 16 May 08
As if proof were needed just how out of touch Labour are... their attack dogs accuse others of making the campaign personal! Seriously, this from the party with an entire campaign built around attacking all their hard working opposition candidates. No one has been spared these disgusting attacks from Dunwoody's henchmen; from Mr Timpson to Miss Great Britain.
Nothing is sacred to them but keeping power at ALL costs... including the £2.7bn election bribe that we'll be asked to pay back one day.
As for Brown visiting Crewe, you would think that a man fighting for his (and his party's) political life would have been on the very first train from London. Clearly, poncing around on the telly is more important to him than real people who have been hit by his pension grabs, council tax rises, stealth taxes and incompetent fumbling of the economy.
Three weeks ago Gordon Brown promised the people of Britain that he was feeling their pain and that he would listen to their concerns. Has anyone in Crewe heard from the man? Has he visited you? Called you on the phone? How can he know how people are suffering from his comfortable life 150 miles away?
Gordon Brown couldn't be bothered to get himself elected as PM, I doubt he really cares if Crewe elects a Labour MP either.
Nothing is sacred to them but keeping power at ALL costs... including the £2.7bn election bribe that we'll be asked to pay back one day.
As for Brown visiting Crewe, you would think that a man fighting for his (and his party's) political life would have been on the very first train from London. Clearly, poncing around on the telly is more important to him than real people who have been hit by his pension grabs, council tax rises, stealth taxes and incompetent fumbling of the economy.
Three weeks ago Gordon Brown promised the people of Britain that he was feeling their pain and that he would listen to their concerns. Has anyone in Crewe heard from the man? Has he visited you? Called you on the phone? How can he know how people are suffering from his comfortable life 150 miles away?
Gordon Brown couldn't be bothered to get himself elected as PM, I doubt he really cares if Crewe elects a Labour MP either.
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
1:24pm Fri 16 May 08
As if proof were needed just how out of touch Labour are... their attack dogs accuse others of making the campaign personal! Seriously, this from the party with an entire campaign built around attacking all their hard working opposition candidates. No one has been spared these disgusting attacks from Dunwoody's henchmen; from Mr Timpson to Miss Great Britain.
Nothing is sacred to them but keeping power at ALL costs... including the £2.7bn election bribe that we'll be asked to pay back one day.
As for Brown visiting Crewe, you would think that a man fighting for his (and his party's) political life would have been on the very first train from London. Clearly, poncing around on the telly is more important to him than real people who have been hit by his pension grabs, council tax rises, stealth taxes and incompetent fumbling of the economy.
Three weeks ago Gordon Brown promised the people of Britain that he was feeling their pain and that he would listen to their concerns. Has anyone in Crewe heard from the man? Has he visited you? Called you on the phone? How can he know how people are suffering from his comfortable life 150 miles away?
Gordon Brown couldn't be bothered to get himself elected as PM, I doubt he really cares if Crewe elects a Labour MP either.
Nothing is sacred to them but keeping power at ALL costs... including the £2.7bn election bribe that we'll be asked to pay back one day.
As for Brown visiting Crewe, you would think that a man fighting for his (and his party's) political life would have been on the very first train from London. Clearly, poncing around on the telly is more important to him than real people who have been hit by his pension grabs, council tax rises, stealth taxes and incompetent fumbling of the economy.
Three weeks ago Gordon Brown promised the people of Britain that he was feeling their pain and that he would listen to their concerns. Has anyone in Crewe heard from the man? Has he visited you? Called you on the phone? How can he know how people are suffering from his comfortable life 150 miles away?
Gordon Brown couldn't be bothered to get himself elected as PM, I doubt he really cares if Crewe elects a Labour MP either.
Robin.J, Eastbourne says...
3:13pm Fri 16 May 08
I have just read John Pickworth's contribution. Seldom have I read such sanctimonious piffle!
Robin.J, Eastbourne says...
3:13pm Fri 16 May 08
I have just read John Pickworth's contribution. Seldom have I read such sanctimonious piffle!
M.H, South Coast says...
5:40pm Fri 16 May 08
My god. Labour must be rattled as they have now set their most vile, offencive and bigoted supporters loose on this website.
1. Robin J, you need to check your facts. Mrs Thatcher and Mr Major DID visit by-election campaigns as a matter of routine. Both of them, unlike Brown were elected by the people.
2. Also Robin J, if you honestly can't understand why people in Crewe and Nantwitch are furious with Brown for not visiting them during their by-election; you need your head examined. By staying away, He's clearly telling them that he couldn't care less about them or what his disasterous decision to remove the 10p tax rate is doing to them. Shame on you Robin J.
3. Ian Stankey, your type of pointless personal class obsessed attacks will get you nowhere. You are unable to communicate any positive reasons why people should vote Labour and so you remind us all exactly why we should never vote Labour by openly displaying the very worst characteristics of your shameful Party which has let us all down so badly.
4.Paul Okeland: You talk about "making it personal" and then you claim that "The Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths." You stupid hypocrit.
You and your Labour mates have made this campaign horribly personal - and it won't get you a single extra vote.
The fact is that the Conservative Party is winning the battle of ideas and can deliver the change that this country needs. Labour Party members are furious about this, but can do nothing about it. So they dress up in Hoodies, put on public school uniforms and try to whip up a class war. The kind of people who use words like "toffs" and "Scum" are clearly motivated by negativity and hate and should not be given any credibility whatsoever. Please don't entrust your vote to Labour next Thursday. They simply don't deserve it.
1. Robin J, you need to check your facts. Mrs Thatcher and Mr Major DID visit by-election campaigns as a matter of routine. Both of them, unlike Brown were elected by the people.
2. Also Robin J, if you honestly can't understand why people in Crewe and Nantwitch are furious with Brown for not visiting them during their by-election; you need your head examined. By staying away, He's clearly telling them that he couldn't care less about them or what his disasterous decision to remove the 10p tax rate is doing to them. Shame on you Robin J.
3. Ian Stankey, your type of pointless personal class obsessed attacks will get you nowhere. You are unable to communicate any positive reasons why people should vote Labour and so you remind us all exactly why we should never vote Labour by openly displaying the very worst characteristics of your shameful Party which has let us all down so badly.
4.Paul Okeland: You talk about "making it personal" and then you claim that "The Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths." You stupid hypocrit.
You and your Labour mates have made this campaign horribly personal - and it won't get you a single extra vote.
The fact is that the Conservative Party is winning the battle of ideas and can deliver the change that this country needs. Labour Party members are furious about this, but can do nothing about it. So they dress up in Hoodies, put on public school uniforms and try to whip up a class war. The kind of people who use words like "toffs" and "Scum" are clearly motivated by negativity and hate and should not be given any credibility whatsoever. Please don't entrust your vote to Labour next Thursday. They simply don't deserve it.
M.H, South Coast says...
5:40pm Fri 16 May 08
My god. Labour must be rattled as they have now set their most vile, offencive and bigoted supporters loose on this website.
1. Robin J, you need to check your facts. Mrs Thatcher and Mr Major DID visit by-election campaigns as a matter of routine. Both of them, unlike Brown were elected by the people.
2. Also Robin J, if you honestly can't understand why people in Crewe and Nantwitch are furious with Brown for not visiting them during their by-election; you need your head examined. By staying away, He's clearly telling them that he couldn't care less about them or what his disasterous decision to remove the 10p tax rate is doing to them. Shame on you Robin J.
3. Ian Stankey, your type of pointless personal class obsessed attacks will get you nowhere. You are unable to communicate any positive reasons why people should vote Labour and so you remind us all exactly why we should never vote Labour by openly displaying the very worst characteristics of your shameful Party which has let us all down so badly.
4.Paul Okeland: You talk about "making it personal" and then you claim that "The Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths." You stupid hypocrit.
You and your Labour mates have made this campaign horribly personal - and it won't get you a single extra vote.
The fact is that the Conservative Party is winning the battle of ideas and can deliver the change that this country needs. Labour Party members are furious about this, but can do nothing about it. So they dress up in Hoodies, put on public school uniforms and try to whip up a class war. The kind of people who use words like "toffs" and "Scum" are clearly motivated by negativity and hate and should not be given any credibility whatsoever. Please don't entrust your vote to Labour next Thursday. They simply don't deserve it.
1. Robin J, you need to check your facts. Mrs Thatcher and Mr Major DID visit by-election campaigns as a matter of routine. Both of them, unlike Brown were elected by the people.
2. Also Robin J, if you honestly can't understand why people in Crewe and Nantwitch are furious with Brown for not visiting them during their by-election; you need your head examined. By staying away, He's clearly telling them that he couldn't care less about them or what his disasterous decision to remove the 10p tax rate is doing to them. Shame on you Robin J.
3. Ian Stankey, your type of pointless personal class obsessed attacks will get you nowhere. You are unable to communicate any positive reasons why people should vote Labour and so you remind us all exactly why we should never vote Labour by openly displaying the very worst characteristics of your shameful Party which has let us all down so badly.
4.Paul Okeland: You talk about "making it personal" and then you claim that "The Tories live with golden spoons in their mouths." You stupid hypocrit.
You and your Labour mates have made this campaign horribly personal - and it won't get you a single extra vote.
The fact is that the Conservative Party is winning the battle of ideas and can deliver the change that this country needs. Labour Party members are furious about this, but can do nothing about it. So they dress up in Hoodies, put on public school uniforms and try to whip up a class war. The kind of people who use words like "toffs" and "Scum" are clearly motivated by negativity and hate and should not be given any credibility whatsoever. Please don't entrust your vote to Labour next Thursday. They simply don't deserve it.
Robin J., Eastbourne says...
6:24pm Fri 16 May 08
Perhaps,M.H would be so kind as to list the by-election campaigns that were routinely visited by Mrs Thatcher and Mr. Major,if he is so sure of his facts. I shall await his reply with interest. I would also like to point out that I would be far more impressed with any future contributions from M.H, if he were not to resort to puerile jibes and offensive remarks. That is not the way to win an argument.
Robin J., Eastbourne says...
6:24pm Fri 16 May 08
Perhaps,M.H would be so kind as to list the by-election campaigns that were routinely visited by Mrs Thatcher and Mr. Major,if he is so sure of his facts. I shall await his reply with interest. I would also like to point out that I would be far more impressed with any future contributions from M.H, if he were not to resort to puerile jibes and offensive remarks. That is not the way to win an argument.
Howard Morton, Cheshire says...
7:17pm Fri 16 May 08
I see that the Labour party activists are starting to panic! "Rich Tory Scum" I don't think that you will find very many poor Labour Cabinet ministers. In fact they are very wealthy. Perhaps they are "Rich Labour Scum"? I'm also fairly sure that I read somewhere that Tony Blair owns a house worth £4 million. "Rich Tony Scum" maybe? Isn't the truth that Gordon Brown has not managed the economy very well at all. It's common sense to put money in reserve during the good times to prepare for the bad times that will surely follow. Gordon Brown just spent and spent. When he's fighting for his political life he just keeps on spending. Unfortunately it's our money he's spending. He is creating serious problems for the British economy by this reckless behaviour...and he believes that the voters of Crewe and Nantwich can't see this? "He's doomed Mr Mainwaring just doomed" as another Scot once famously said!
Howard Morton, Cheshire says...
7:17pm Fri 16 May 08
I see that the Labour party activists are starting to panic! "Rich Tory Scum" I don't think that you will find very many poor Labour Cabinet ministers. In fact they are very wealthy. Perhaps they are "Rich Labour Scum"? I'm also fairly sure that I read somewhere that Tony Blair owns a house worth £4 million. "Rich Tony Scum" maybe? Isn't the truth that Gordon Brown has not managed the economy very well at all. It's common sense to put money in reserve during the good times to prepare for the bad times that will surely follow. Gordon Brown just spent and spent. When he's fighting for his political life he just keeps on spending. Unfortunately it's our money he's spending. He is creating serious problems for the British economy by this reckless behaviour...and he believes that the voters of Crewe and Nantwich can't see this? "He's doomed Mr Mainwaring just doomed" as another Scot once famously said!
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
10:21pm Fri 16 May 08
Robin.J wrote:Sanctimonious? Yes, possibly (although I'd prefer the term heart-felt) but its no different to what people on the streets of Crewe are saying, what the main stream media is saying and what programs like Newsnight are saying.
I have just read John Pickworth's contribution. Seldom have I read such sanctimonious piffle!
As for your original message... I can't answer for the Prime Ministers of old, but the last Prime Minister Tony Blair DID visit during a by-election, I see no reason why its such a crime to ask the current one to do the same?
What's Gordon Brown frightened of... hearing what the people of Crewe think of him and his policies maybe? So much for the listening Prime Minister. Just more Labour spin from a Government that has spun out of control.
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
10:21pm Fri 16 May 08
Robin.J wrote:Sanctimonious? Yes, possibly (although I'd prefer the term heart-felt) but its no different to what people on the streets of Crewe are saying, what the main stream media is saying and what programs like Newsnight are saying.
I have just read John Pickworth's contribution. Seldom have I read such sanctimonious piffle!
As for your original message... I can't answer for the Prime Ministers of old, but the last Prime Minister Tony Blair DID visit during a by-election, I see no reason why its such a crime to ask the current one to do the same?
What's Gordon Brown frightened of... hearing what the people of Crewe think of him and his policies maybe? So much for the listening Prime Minister. Just more Labour spin from a Government that has spun out of control.
John Doran, says...
9:24am Sat 17 May 08
All of the comments on here seem to be a very good reason to vote Lib Dem!
John Doran, says...
9:24am Sat 17 May 08
All of the comments on here seem to be a very good reason to vote Lib Dem!
Alan Stewart Williams, Shavington says...
12:23pm Sat 17 May 08
Even now, with all the public/private schoolchildren in New Labour we still get their followers coming out with all the old class trash. They seem to forget the Bliar buying up every bit of property that he and his publicity seeking wife could put their hands on, the latest abode being a £4, 500,000 (yes read millions) country pile that would shame the King of Saudi Arabia for it's oppulance. Now why would a Labourite need that sort of pile. Labour readers, if you were not aware, the arch anti rich woman herself, Hariett Harmon, QC (yes a QC in the Labour Party)went to public school, the man with the staring eyes, what's his name, yes ED Balls, the one that they are giving experience to be a future Labour PM by making him Minister in charge of Infant Primary Schools is also ex public school, turn up all the other Labour front bench on the internet and see how many went to Oxbridge, my grandaughter tried (and she had more A/A grades than many Labour MPs and she was turned down possibly because she lived in a Council House so the "old school tie" is still alive and kicking in New Labour. New labour MPs and Ministers can match the Tories person for person when it comes to education and wealth - in fact with the Tories, it's generally genuine, with Labour, they are usually obtained on the QT, know what I mean, wink wink, nudge nudge.
I have a son who lives in Worcester and I have just returned from there, turn up the Worcester papers, Labour Councillors conducted one of the dirtiest, deceitful Local Election campaigns that it is possible to imagine, their modus operandi seems to be catching because if the pro Dunwoody lot now roaming the local streets are anything to go by, they are living true to form.
Labour - the party that "KNOWINGLY" taxes the poorest in our society in order to give tax breaks to those that don't need them, then some of these pathetic Ian Sankey/Paul Okeland types come out with the typical "1930s Old Labour" comments that are so typical of the intelligence pervading the Labour ranks in their part of the country. We are not so daft or thick down here lads. Labour has had it's fun and games - now it's pay back time in Crewe and nantwich.
I have a son who lives in Worcester and I have just returned from there, turn up the Worcester papers, Labour Councillors conducted one of the dirtiest, deceitful Local Election campaigns that it is possible to imagine, their modus operandi seems to be catching because if the pro Dunwoody lot now roaming the local streets are anything to go by, they are living true to form.
Labour - the party that "KNOWINGLY" taxes the poorest in our society in order to give tax breaks to those that don't need them, then some of these pathetic Ian Sankey/Paul Okeland types come out with the typical "1930s Old Labour" comments that are so typical of the intelligence pervading the Labour ranks in their part of the country. We are not so daft or thick down here lads. Labour has had it's fun and games - now it's pay back time in Crewe and nantwich.
Alan Stewart Williams, Shavington says...
12:23pm Sat 17 May 08
Even now, with all the public/private schoolchildren in New Labour we still get their followers coming out with all the old class trash. They seem to forget the Bliar buying up every bit of property that he and his publicity seeking wife could put their hands on, the latest abode being a £4, 500,000 (yes read millions) country pile that would shame the King of Saudi Arabia for it's oppulance. Now why would a Labourite need that sort of pile. Labour readers, if you were not aware, the arch anti rich woman herself, Hariett Harmon, QC (yes a QC in the Labour Party)went to public school, the man with the staring eyes, what's his name, yes ED Balls, the one that they are giving experience to be a future Labour PM by making him Minister in charge of Infant Primary Schools is also ex public school, turn up all the other Labour front bench on the internet and see how many went to Oxbridge, my grandaughter tried (and she had more A/A grades than many Labour MPs and she was turned down possibly because she lived in a Council House so the "old school tie" is still alive and kicking in New Labour. New labour MPs and Ministers can match the Tories person for person when it comes to education and wealth - in fact with the Tories, it's generally genuine, with Labour, they are usually obtained on the QT, know what I mean, wink wink, nudge nudge.
I have a son who lives in Worcester and I have just returned from there, turn up the Worcester papers, Labour Councillors conducted one of the dirtiest, deceitful Local Election campaigns that it is possible to imagine, their modus operandi seems to be catching because if the pro Dunwoody lot now roaming the local streets are anything to go by, they are living true to form.
Labour - the party that "KNOWINGLY" taxes the poorest in our society in order to give tax breaks to those that don't need them, then some of these pathetic Ian Sankey/Paul Okeland types come out with the typical "1930s Old Labour" comments that are so typical of the intelligence pervading the Labour ranks in their part of the country. We are not so daft or thick down here lads. Labour has had it's fun and games - now it's pay back time in Crewe and nantwich.
I have a son who lives in Worcester and I have just returned from there, turn up the Worcester papers, Labour Councillors conducted one of the dirtiest, deceitful Local Election campaigns that it is possible to imagine, their modus operandi seems to be catching because if the pro Dunwoody lot now roaming the local streets are anything to go by, they are living true to form.
Labour - the party that "KNOWINGLY" taxes the poorest in our society in order to give tax breaks to those that don't need them, then some of these pathetic Ian Sankey/Paul Okeland types come out with the typical "1930s Old Labour" comments that are so typical of the intelligence pervading the Labour ranks in their part of the country. We are not so daft or thick down here lads. Labour has had it's fun and games - now it's pay back time in Crewe and nantwich.
Dave H, Manchester says...
5:09pm Sat 17 May 08
To be fair, I've seen plenty of pictures of Gordon Brown on leaflets!
Dave H, Manchester says...
5:09pm Sat 17 May 08
To be fair, I've seen plenty of pictures of Gordon Brown on leaflets!
Robert Shaw, Macclesfield says...
7:54pm Sat 17 May 08
Fine Crewe. Carry on, keep Labour in power and vote for them, then sit back and enjoy years of crime infested sink estates, binge drinking morons, benefit dependant wasters, constantly increasing fuel,food,taxes,oh! and dont forget to pay your bin fines on time. Brown is a complete utter waste of time, a man who unnaposed promoted himself to an office he's obviously not qualified for and utterley hopeless at.
If your comfortable in your stink, good luck to you. How could ANYONE be worse than this bunch. You have a chance to lead the Country out of the dire mess it's become.
Take it.
If your comfortable in your stink, good luck to you. How could ANYONE be worse than this bunch. You have a chance to lead the Country out of the dire mess it's become.
Take it.
Robert Shaw, Macclesfield says...
7:54pm Sat 17 May 08
Fine Crewe. Carry on, keep Labour in power and vote for them, then sit back and enjoy years of crime infested sink estates, binge drinking morons, benefit dependant wasters, constantly increasing fuel,food,taxes,oh! and dont forget to pay your bin fines on time. Brown is a complete utter waste of time, a man who unnaposed promoted himself to an office he's obviously not qualified for and utterley hopeless at.
If your comfortable in your stink, good luck to you. How could ANYONE be worse than this bunch. You have a chance to lead the Country out of the dire mess it's become.
Take it.
If your comfortable in your stink, good luck to you. How could ANYONE be worse than this bunch. You have a chance to lead the Country out of the dire mess it's become.
Take it.
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
6:20am Sun 18 May 08
I know this might come over as a cheap shot but truly its something I've just thought about...
So Dunwoody wants to rid Crewe of teen crime, provide well paid jobs and (try not to laugh) help the low paid? Well hold on a minute, how is she going to do that between now and the next General Election in less than 2 years time... haven't her party been in power for more than 11 years already? Leaving aside the fact Labour is probably responsible for many of these problems, haven't they had enough time to deal with them by now?
Like I say... just a thought.
So Dunwoody wants to rid Crewe of teen crime, provide well paid jobs and (try not to laugh) help the low paid? Well hold on a minute, how is she going to do that between now and the next General Election in less than 2 years time... haven't her party been in power for more than 11 years already? Leaving aside the fact Labour is probably responsible for many of these problems, haven't they had enough time to deal with them by now?
Like I say... just a thought.
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
6:20am Sun 18 May 08
I know this might come over as a cheap shot but truly its something I've just thought about...
So Dunwoody wants to rid Crewe of teen crime, provide well paid jobs and (try not to laugh) help the low paid? Well hold on a minute, how is she going to do that between now and the next General Election in less than 2 years time... haven't her party been in power for more than 11 years already? Leaving aside the fact Labour is probably responsible for many of these problems, haven't they had enough time to deal with them by now?
Like I say... just a thought.
So Dunwoody wants to rid Crewe of teen crime, provide well paid jobs and (try not to laugh) help the low paid? Well hold on a minute, how is she going to do that between now and the next General Election in less than 2 years time... haven't her party been in power for more than 11 years already? Leaving aside the fact Labour is probably responsible for many of these problems, haven't they had enough time to deal with them by now?
Like I say... just a thought.
Sue Normanton, Audlem says...
10:23am Sun 18 May 08
Ian Sankey wrote:This is so typical of Labour propaganda. Just like the sad old face of Frank Dobson, whom Londoners' rejected for Mayor got it wrong, so this guy has got it wrong. Timpson is from Uppingham NOT Eton, in fact isn't Tamsin Dunwoody related to a so-called Toff - Lord someone or another?
What typical upper class tory toff. Why should Gordon waste his time debating this rich eton old boy?
Timpson may be ok with Daddy\'s money, but we\'re too busy plotting a course to get the British economy back on track from the setbacks of the global credit crunch to do this punch and judy politics.
The labour party is working for those who really matter in this land, not the rich public school boys but the union members, the single mothers and the retired.
Long may the great true red Dunwoody legacy continue.
Labour for Crewe, Labour for you.
Sue Normanto n
Sue Normanton, Audlem says...
10:23am Sun 18 May 08
Ian Sankey wrote:This is so typical of Labour propaganda. Just like the sad old face of Frank Dobson, whom Londoners' rejected for Mayor got it wrong, so this guy has got it wrong. Timpson is from Uppingham NOT Eton, in fact isn't Tamsin Dunwoody related to a so-called Toff - Lord someone or another?
What typical upper class tory toff. Why should Gordon waste his time debating this rich eton old boy?
Timpson may be ok with Daddy\'s money, but we\'re too busy plotting a course to get the British economy back on track from the setbacks of the global credit crunch to do this punch and judy politics.
The labour party is working for those who really matter in this land, not the rich public school boys but the union members, the single mothers and the retired.
Long may the great true red Dunwoody legacy continue.
Labour for Crewe, Labour for you.
Sue Normanto n
Alan Stewart Williams, Shavington says...
11:07am Sun 18 May 08
The New Labour clown dressed up, as their juvenile description puts it, "a toff", is none other than a Labour Agent for Nottingham or some place in the Midlands who HIMSELF WENT TO A FEE PAYING SCHOOL, ie his parents were not content to send him to a school were the "hoi polloi" went, they paid £9,000 per year to give him the appearance that he dons in jest - albeit, in his case it is for real AND HE IS A NEW LABOUR AGENT.
Then this man and this party, (New Labour) have the spine chilling, hypocritical gall to criticise the Tories but not only that, they also criticise Timpson for having a farm. Yes, in this modern day and age, in the eyes of New Labour it is only the Upper Classes who own a farm but, there's only one problem DUNWOODY ALSO OWNS A FARM. However, lets go on down the New Labour track a bit further, Llamas, those soft, cuddly South American "sheep" are now a status symbol and those who own them should be regarded as not of the "ordinary classes". This being the case, those who own them are ripe for being branded, yes, that Labour word again, "toffs". So, because Timpson has some Llamas in a field abutting his place, he is branded a "toff" and nobody should vote for him.
ONLY ONE PROBLEM, THE FIELD THAT THEY ARE IN AND THE LLAMAS THEMSELVES BELONG NOT TO HIM, BUT HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR. BONGGGGGGggggggg.
I have a suggestion, why don't the Labourites take a leaf out of the Tories book of some years ago and openly admit that NEW LABOUR ARE A THOROUGHLY NASTY PARTY who have lost all credence with the electorate. The Tories have redeemed themselves under a new, vote worthy team whereas New Labour are on the way down and getting nastier by the day.
Labourites, keep BROWN in office, almost definately he will get the Tories elected to power next time around.
Then this man and this party, (New Labour) have the spine chilling, hypocritical gall to criticise the Tories but not only that, they also criticise Timpson for having a farm. Yes, in this modern day and age, in the eyes of New Labour it is only the Upper Classes who own a farm but, there's only one problem DUNWOODY ALSO OWNS A FARM. However, lets go on down the New Labour track a bit further, Llamas, those soft, cuddly South American "sheep" are now a status symbol and those who own them should be regarded as not of the "ordinary classes". This being the case, those who own them are ripe for being branded, yes, that Labour word again, "toffs". So, because Timpson has some Llamas in a field abutting his place, he is branded a "toff" and nobody should vote for him.
ONLY ONE PROBLEM, THE FIELD THAT THEY ARE IN AND THE LLAMAS THEMSELVES BELONG NOT TO HIM, BUT HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR. BONGGGGGGggggggg.
I have a suggestion, why don't the Labourites take a leaf out of the Tories book of some years ago and openly admit that NEW LABOUR ARE A THOROUGHLY NASTY PARTY who have lost all credence with the electorate. The Tories have redeemed themselves under a new, vote worthy team whereas New Labour are on the way down and getting nastier by the day.
Labourites, keep BROWN in office, almost definately he will get the Tories elected to power next time around.
Alan Stewart Williams, Shavington says...
11:07am Sun 18 May 08
The New Labour clown dressed up, as their juvenile description puts it, "a toff", is none other than a Labour Agent for Nottingham or some place in the Midlands who HIMSELF WENT TO A FEE PAYING SCHOOL, ie his parents were not content to send him to a school were the "hoi polloi" went, they paid £9,000 per year to give him the appearance that he dons in jest - albeit, in his case it is for real AND HE IS A NEW LABOUR AGENT.
Then this man and this party, (New Labour) have the spine chilling, hypocritical gall to criticise the Tories but not only that, they also criticise Timpson for having a farm. Yes, in this modern day and age, in the eyes of New Labour it is only the Upper Classes who own a farm but, there's only one problem DUNWOODY ALSO OWNS A FARM. However, lets go on down the New Labour track a bit further, Llamas, those soft, cuddly South American "sheep" are now a status symbol and those who own them should be regarded as not of the "ordinary classes". This being the case, those who own them are ripe for being branded, yes, that Labour word again, "toffs". So, because Timpson has some Llamas in a field abutting his place, he is branded a "toff" and nobody should vote for him.
ONLY ONE PROBLEM, THE FIELD THAT THEY ARE IN AND THE LLAMAS THEMSELVES BELONG NOT TO HIM, BUT HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR. BONGGGGGGggggggg.
I have a suggestion, why don't the Labourites take a leaf out of the Tories book of some years ago and openly admit that NEW LABOUR ARE A THOROUGHLY NASTY PARTY who have lost all credence with the electorate. The Tories have redeemed themselves under a new, vote worthy team whereas New Labour are on the way down and getting nastier by the day.
Labourites, keep BROWN in office, almost definately he will get the Tories elected to power next time around.
Then this man and this party, (New Labour) have the spine chilling, hypocritical gall to criticise the Tories but not only that, they also criticise Timpson for having a farm. Yes, in this modern day and age, in the eyes of New Labour it is only the Upper Classes who own a farm but, there's only one problem DUNWOODY ALSO OWNS A FARM. However, lets go on down the New Labour track a bit further, Llamas, those soft, cuddly South American "sheep" are now a status symbol and those who own them should be regarded as not of the "ordinary classes". This being the case, those who own them are ripe for being branded, yes, that Labour word again, "toffs". So, because Timpson has some Llamas in a field abutting his place, he is branded a "toff" and nobody should vote for him.
ONLY ONE PROBLEM, THE FIELD THAT THEY ARE IN AND THE LLAMAS THEMSELVES BELONG NOT TO HIM, BUT HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR. BONGGGGGGggggggg.
I have a suggestion, why don't the Labourites take a leaf out of the Tories book of some years ago and openly admit that NEW LABOUR ARE A THOROUGHLY NASTY PARTY who have lost all credence with the electorate. The Tories have redeemed themselves under a new, vote worthy team whereas New Labour are on the way down and getting nastier by the day.
Labourites, keep BROWN in office, almost definately he will get the Tories elected to power next time around.
Chris, Sussex says...
12:13pm Sun 18 May 08
What is wrong with M/s Normanton? All her contributions are personally offensive! This time it is Mr. Dobson's face that gets the treatment.It would be so good to hear something positive for once from the lady.
Chris, Sussex says...
12:13pm Sun 18 May 08
What is wrong with M/s Normanton? All her contributions are personally offensive! This time it is Mr. Dobson's face that gets the treatment.It would be so good to hear something positive for once from the lady.
M.H, South Coast says...
10:24am Mon 19 May 08
Poor old Robin J. While the rest of us are quite rightly discussing moden day issues and the state of our country, all Robin wants is a list of by-elections that the two previous Conservative Prime Ministers attended. Oh dear, stuck in the past, talking about things that no-one else cares about and nothing useful to say. You truly are a New Labour supporter aren't you?
You and your kind are the ones who are getting personal and nasty because you don't have anyhting positive to say.
And as for "Winning the argument." I have won it, and I hope that The Conservatives win it on Thursday to send a strong message to Brown; enough is enough.
You and your kind are the ones who are getting personal and nasty because you don't have anyhting positive to say.
And as for "Winning the argument." I have won it, and I hope that The Conservatives win it on Thursday to send a strong message to Brown; enough is enough.
M.H, South Coast says...
10:24am Mon 19 May 08
Poor old Robin J. While the rest of us are quite rightly discussing moden day issues and the state of our country, all Robin wants is a list of by-elections that the two previous Conservative Prime Ministers attended. Oh dear, stuck in the past, talking about things that no-one else cares about and nothing useful to say. You truly are a New Labour supporter aren't you?
You and your kind are the ones who are getting personal and nasty because you don't have anyhting positive to say.
And as for "Winning the argument." I have won it, and I hope that The Conservatives win it on Thursday to send a strong message to Brown; enough is enough.
You and your kind are the ones who are getting personal and nasty because you don't have anyhting positive to say.
And as for "Winning the argument." I have won it, and I hope that The Conservatives win it on Thursday to send a strong message to Brown; enough is enough.
Matt, Crewe says...
12:02pm Mon 19 May 08
I used to be a Labour voter, but not anymore. I'm disgusted with their vile attacks on the Conservative candidate and so will vote for him instead, as will all of my friends.
Can you imagine the uproar if the Tories attacked a candidate for being working-class? There is no place for class-based envy politics anymore. Labour need to be taught a lesson.
Can you imagine the uproar if the Tories attacked a candidate for being working-class? There is no place for class-based envy politics anymore. Labour need to be taught a lesson.
Matt, Crewe says...
12:02pm Mon 19 May 08
I used to be a Labour voter, but not anymore. I'm disgusted with their vile attacks on the Conservative candidate and so will vote for him instead, as will all of my friends.
Can you imagine the uproar if the Tories attacked a candidate for being working-class? There is no place for class-based envy politics anymore. Labour need to be taught a lesson.
Can you imagine the uproar if the Tories attacked a candidate for being working-class? There is no place for class-based envy politics anymore. Labour need to be taught a lesson.
Mike, Sussex says...
5:10pm Mon 19 May 08
How anyone can vote for Brown and his frankly disgusting Labour party is beyond me. A party that has basically maxed out our credit cards with truly epic public spending whilst delivering frankly nothing. A party that is supposed to care for the poor but delivers the most complex welfare system in the world in the form of tax credits and then raises taxes on the poor to pay for a middle class tax cut! The they realise the political impact of this a year later and borrow a further £2.7Bn (on the credit cards yet again) to pay for a tax cut that still leaves 1.1Mn losers. If that is not the definition of incompetence I don't know what is.
Do the rest of the country a favour and vote against Labour the the Welsh Moyra Tamsin Dunwoody-Kneafsy. Maybe it will hasten the end of this very tired and very tiresome government
Do the rest of the country a favour and vote against Labour the the Welsh Moyra Tamsin Dunwoody-Kneafsy. Maybe it will hasten the end of this very tired and very tiresome government
Mike, Sussex says...
5:10pm Mon 19 May 08
How anyone can vote for Brown and his frankly disgusting Labour party is beyond me. A party that has basically maxed out our credit cards with truly epic public spending whilst delivering frankly nothing. A party that is supposed to care for the poor but delivers the most complex welfare system in the world in the form of tax credits and then raises taxes on the poor to pay for a middle class tax cut! The they realise the political impact of this a year later and borrow a further £2.7Bn (on the credit cards yet again) to pay for a tax cut that still leaves 1.1Mn losers. If that is not the definition of incompetence I don't know what is.
Do the rest of the country a favour and vote against Labour the the Welsh Moyra Tamsin Dunwoody-Kneafsy. Maybe it will hasten the end of this very tired and very tiresome government
Do the rest of the country a favour and vote against Labour the the Welsh Moyra Tamsin Dunwoody-Kneafsy. Maybe it will hasten the end of this very tired and very tiresome government
Brian Drury, London Colney says...
5:40pm Mon 19 May 08
Here are the 2005 general election results:
Gwyneth Dunwoody, Labour 21,240
Eveleigh Moore-Dutton, Conservative 14,162
Paul Roberts, Liberal Democrat 8,083
Source:
http://politics.guar
dian.co.uk/hoc/const
ituency/0,,-852,00.h
tml
So, it looks as if the Conservatives are best placed to oust New Labour.
New Labour: Tough on freedom, tough on the causes of freedom.
Gwyneth Dunwoody, Labour 21,240
Eveleigh Moore-Dutton, Conservative 14,162
Paul Roberts, Liberal Democrat 8,083
Source:
http://politics.guar
dian.co.uk/hoc/const
ituency/0,,-852,00.h
tml
So, it looks as if the Conservatives are best placed to oust New Labour.
New Labour: Tough on freedom, tough on the causes of freedom.
Brian Drury, London Colney says...
5:40pm Mon 19 May 08
Here are the 2005 general election results:
Gwyneth Dunwoody, Labour 21,240
Eveleigh Moore-Dutton, Conservative 14,162
Paul Roberts, Liberal Democrat 8,083
Source:
http://politics.guar
dian.co.uk/hoc/const
ituency/0,,-852,00.h
tml
So, it looks as if the Conservatives are best placed to oust New Labour.
New Labour: Tough on freedom, tough on the causes of freedom.
Gwyneth Dunwoody, Labour 21,240
Eveleigh Moore-Dutton, Conservative 14,162
Paul Roberts, Liberal Democrat 8,083
Source:
http://politics.guar
dian.co.uk/hoc/const
ituency/0,,-852,00.h
tml
So, it looks as if the Conservatives are best placed to oust New Labour.
New Labour: Tough on freedom, tough on the causes of freedom.
Robin J., Eastbourne says...
8:30pm Mon 19 May 08
In an earlier contribution, M.H. asked me to check my facts with reference to visits to by-elections by Prime Ministers. I have done so and he was wrong. This was probably the first time in his life that he has been wrong in anything, judging by the holier that thou tone of this morning's contribution, when he claimed that he had "won the argument". Perhaps, he should remember the well-known adage "Self praise is no praise". I was simply pointing out that it might be considered somewhat hypocritical of Mr. Timpson to blast Mr. Brown for not visiting Crewe, when his party's previous two Prime Ministers had not made by-election visits.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
Robin J., Eastbourne says...
8:30pm Mon 19 May 08
In an earlier contribution, M.H. asked me to check my facts with reference to visits to by-elections by Prime Ministers. I have done so and he was wrong. This was probably the first time in his life that he has been wrong in anything, judging by the holier that thou tone of this morning's contribution, when he claimed that he had "won the argument". Perhaps, he should remember the well-known adage "Self praise is no praise". I was simply pointing out that it might be considered somewhat hypocritical of Mr. Timpson to blast Mr. Brown for not visiting Crewe, when his party's previous two Prime Ministers had not made by-election visits.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
Robin J., Eastbourne says...
8:34pm Mon 19 May 08
In an earlier contribution, M.H. asked me to check my facts with reference to visits to by-elections by Prime Ministers. I have done so and he was wrong. This was probably the first time in his life that he has been wrong in anything, judging by the holier that thou tone of this morning's contribution, when he claimed that he had "won the argument". Perhaps, he should remember the well-known adage "Self praise is no praise". I was simply pointing out that it might be considered somewhat hypocritical of Mr. Timpson to blast Mr. Brown for not visiting Crewe, when his party's previous two Prime Ministers had not made by-election visits.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
Robin J., Eastbourne says...
8:34pm Mon 19 May 08
In an earlier contribution, M.H. asked me to check my facts with reference to visits to by-elections by Prime Ministers. I have done so and he was wrong. This was probably the first time in his life that he has been wrong in anything, judging by the holier that thou tone of this morning's contribution, when he claimed that he had "won the argument". Perhaps, he should remember the well-known adage "Self praise is no praise". I was simply pointing out that it might be considered somewhat hypocritical of Mr. Timpson to blast Mr. Brown for not visiting Crewe, when his party's previous two Prime Ministers had not made by-election visits.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
As for being stuck in the past, it is clearly in the Tories' interests that people should forget previous Tory administrations. If the last Tory government had been so wonderful, how was it that they were unable to win a single by-election for so many years and that they were eventually thrown out of office
so ingloriously and by such a massive majority in 1997.
As for the future, the Tories do not seem to have thought through their policies. Everything is so vague. The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last. I suspect that the average fair-minded person will want something far more positive, when it comes to electing a new government.
Bison, Doncaster (at time of writing) says...
10:21pm Mon 19 May 08
The Conservatives may be "toffs", but check out the backgrounds of our present "Socialist" cabinet: most are ex-public school and ex-Oxbridge! This so-called New Labour party are in league with their wealthy friends and every bit as elitist and remote from the working classes as any tory. They are dishonest, disingenuous, self-serving and thoroughly inept. They have systematically dismantled freedoms which our forefathers fought wars to protect. In doing so, they have turned this once great nation into an insipid and controlling nanny state operated by intrusive public surveillance, databases and punitive sanctions against any who dare to resist. But they haven't finished yet and are now moving us inexorably towards something even more sinister - a police state.
I'm from a traveller family, so I can hardly be accused of having come from a privileged background, but if I find myself on an electoral register at the next General Election, I'm going to vote Conservative for the first time in my life.
I'm from a traveller family, so I can hardly be accused of having come from a privileged background, but if I find myself on an electoral register at the next General Election, I'm going to vote Conservative for the first time in my life.
Bison, Doncaster (at time of writing) says...
10:21pm Mon 19 May 08
The Conservatives may be "toffs", but check out the backgrounds of our present "Socialist" cabinet: most are ex-public school and ex-Oxbridge! This so-called New Labour party are in league with their wealthy friends and every bit as elitist and remote from the working classes as any tory. They are dishonest, disingenuous, self-serving and thoroughly inept. They have systematically dismantled freedoms which our forefathers fought wars to protect. In doing so, they have turned this once great nation into an insipid and controlling nanny state operated by intrusive public surveillance, databases and punitive sanctions against any who dare to resist. But they haven't finished yet and are now moving us inexorably towards something even more sinister - a police state.
I'm from a traveller family, so I can hardly be accused of having come from a privileged background, but if I find myself on an electoral register at the next General Election, I'm going to vote Conservative for the first time in my life.
I'm from a traveller family, so I can hardly be accused of having come from a privileged background, but if I find myself on an electoral register at the next General Election, I'm going to vote Conservative for the first time in my life.
Alan Stewart Williams, Shavington says...
12:12am Tue 20 May 08
Robin J, How was it all the Labour Governments were "thrown" out of office before Maggie and her Conservatives etc started the long run before the disaster Major took over. It's a daft point isn't it. We can liken Brown to Major only ten times worse.
As for vague Tory promises. This is the favourite Labour response. What about the Inheritance Tax - pinched by that blatant politicking in the Labour Interim Spending Revue, what about taxing non-doms - pinched by the Labourites again in their the Spending Revue, what about stamp duty for first buyers, again pinched by Labour. What about all the policies mentioned for the second, third and fourth time by Brown only last week which are to be in the Queen's Speech, correct me if I am wrong - was it 14, half of which were direct "steals" from Conservative policy which Cameron had the exact dates when the Tories anounced that they were Tory policy.
Up until the latest financial disaster, it was the cry of the Labourites when they had nothing better to say, "where is the money coming from" when the Tories announced a policy initiative. Since the Credit crunch and, as Mike from Sussex say's above, the credit card and telephone number borrowings of the Labourites, they can no longer say that because they themselves have been found out - good and proper. All the big spending by "Prudence" Brown was based on borrowing, now the cupboard is bare and all they can do now is tax more, spend less or continue to borrow which in itself is a bit difficult because the last borrowing £2.8 Billion to make up half of the lost 10p tax band, put Labour Magicians Brown and Darling over the 40% borrowing limit laid down in the Red Book. The Tories don't have to give any explanations where their finance is coming from to fund initiatives, one thing is certain, they won't spend it like water, they won't tax us to the hilt and they won't borrow it until our credit runs out. They will, as Cameron anounced tonight, curtail government spending in order to live within our means - like a mature housewife who knows all about "housekeeping" not like some "bimbo" like Brown and Darling who spend, spend, spend and then find that they have nothing in their bag to pay the bill.
Yes, Robin of Eastbourne (query, a Labourite that far down south) the game is up for this prize gang and it's going to need the north - west to show the country exactly that.
As for vague Tory promises. This is the favourite Labour response. What about the Inheritance Tax - pinched by that blatant politicking in the Labour Interim Spending Revue, what about taxing non-doms - pinched by the Labourites again in their the Spending Revue, what about stamp duty for first buyers, again pinched by Labour. What about all the policies mentioned for the second, third and fourth time by Brown only last week which are to be in the Queen's Speech, correct me if I am wrong - was it 14, half of which were direct "steals" from Conservative policy which Cameron had the exact dates when the Tories anounced that they were Tory policy.
Up until the latest financial disaster, it was the cry of the Labourites when they had nothing better to say, "where is the money coming from" when the Tories announced a policy initiative. Since the Credit crunch and, as Mike from Sussex say's above, the credit card and telephone number borrowings of the Labourites, they can no longer say that because they themselves have been found out - good and proper. All the big spending by "Prudence" Brown was based on borrowing, now the cupboard is bare and all they can do now is tax more, spend less or continue to borrow which in itself is a bit difficult because the last borrowing £2.8 Billion to make up half of the lost 10p tax band, put Labour Magicians Brown and Darling over the 40% borrowing limit laid down in the Red Book. The Tories don't have to give any explanations where their finance is coming from to fund initiatives, one thing is certain, they won't spend it like water, they won't tax us to the hilt and they won't borrow it until our credit runs out. They will, as Cameron anounced tonight, curtail government spending in order to live within our means - like a mature housewife who knows all about "housekeeping" not like some "bimbo" like Brown and Darling who spend, spend, spend and then find that they have nothing in their bag to pay the bill.
Yes, Robin of Eastbourne (query, a Labourite that far down south) the game is up for this prize gang and it's going to need the north - west to show the country exactly that.
Alan Stewart Williams, Shavington says...
12:12am Tue 20 May 08
Robin J, How was it all the Labour Governments were "thrown" out of office before Maggie and her Conservatives etc started the long run before the disaster Major took over. It's a daft point isn't it. We can liken Brown to Major only ten times worse.
As for vague Tory promises. This is the favourite Labour response. What about the Inheritance Tax - pinched by that blatant politicking in the Labour Interim Spending Revue, what about taxing non-doms - pinched by the Labourites again in their the Spending Revue, what about stamp duty for first buyers, again pinched by Labour. What about all the policies mentioned for the second, third and fourth time by Brown only last week which are to be in the Queen's Speech, correct me if I am wrong - was it 14, half of which were direct "steals" from Conservative policy which Cameron had the exact dates when the Tories anounced that they were Tory policy.
Up until the latest financial disaster, it was the cry of the Labourites when they had nothing better to say, "where is the money coming from" when the Tories announced a policy initiative. Since the Credit crunch and, as Mike from Sussex say's above, the credit card and telephone number borrowings of the Labourites, they can no longer say that because they themselves have been found out - good and proper. All the big spending by "Prudence" Brown was based on borrowing, now the cupboard is bare and all they can do now is tax more, spend less or continue to borrow which in itself is a bit difficult because the last borrowing £2.8 Billion to make up half of the lost 10p tax band, put Labour Magicians Brown and Darling over the 40% borrowing limit laid down in the Red Book. The Tories don't have to give any explanations where their finance is coming from to fund initiatives, one thing is certain, they won't spend it like water, they won't tax us to the hilt and they won't borrow it until our credit runs out. They will, as Cameron anounced tonight, curtail government spending in order to live within our means - like a mature housewife who knows all about "housekeeping" not like some "bimbo" like Brown and Darling who spend, spend, spend and then find that they have nothing in their bag to pay the bill.
Yes, Robin of Eastbourne (query, a Labourite that far down south) the game is up for this prize gang and it's going to need the north - west to show the country exactly that.
As for vague Tory promises. This is the favourite Labour response. What about the Inheritance Tax - pinched by that blatant politicking in the Labour Interim Spending Revue, what about taxing non-doms - pinched by the Labourites again in their the Spending Revue, what about stamp duty for first buyers, again pinched by Labour. What about all the policies mentioned for the second, third and fourth time by Brown only last week which are to be in the Queen's Speech, correct me if I am wrong - was it 14, half of which were direct "steals" from Conservative policy which Cameron had the exact dates when the Tories anounced that they were Tory policy.
Up until the latest financial disaster, it was the cry of the Labourites when they had nothing better to say, "where is the money coming from" when the Tories announced a policy initiative. Since the Credit crunch and, as Mike from Sussex say's above, the credit card and telephone number borrowings of the Labourites, they can no longer say that because they themselves have been found out - good and proper. All the big spending by "Prudence" Brown was based on borrowing, now the cupboard is bare and all they can do now is tax more, spend less or continue to borrow which in itself is a bit difficult because the last borrowing £2.8 Billion to make up half of the lost 10p tax band, put Labour Magicians Brown and Darling over the 40% borrowing limit laid down in the Red Book. The Tories don't have to give any explanations where their finance is coming from to fund initiatives, one thing is certain, they won't spend it like water, they won't tax us to the hilt and they won't borrow it until our credit runs out. They will, as Cameron anounced tonight, curtail government spending in order to live within our means - like a mature housewife who knows all about "housekeeping" not like some "bimbo" like Brown and Darling who spend, spend, spend and then find that they have nothing in their bag to pay the bill.
Yes, Robin of Eastbourne (query, a Labourite that far down south) the game is up for this prize gang and it's going to need the north - west to show the country exactly that.
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
10:23am Tue 20 May 08
Robin said the following about the conservatives...
"The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last."
I agree, they are correctly blaming the Government for everything... because it is Labour who have been in power for more than 11 years and are ultimately responsible for all the problems. And yes, the conservatives are in tune with the mood of the country. Frankly we're as angry as hell about Labour's failed policies but at least the Tories are listening.... pity the same cannot be said of Gordon Brown's bunch.
If Brown cared about how the people were hurting he'd be in Crewe (stuff tradition) but he won't come. He simply won't take the 'tough decision' to visit and I suspect he can't take the tough decisions needed to fix the broken economy either.
"The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last."
I agree, they are correctly blaming the Government for everything... because it is Labour who have been in power for more than 11 years and are ultimately responsible for all the problems. And yes, the conservatives are in tune with the mood of the country. Frankly we're as angry as hell about Labour's failed policies but at least the Tories are listening.... pity the same cannot be said of Gordon Brown's bunch.
If Brown cared about how the people were hurting he'd be in Crewe (stuff tradition) but he won't come. He simply won't take the 'tough decision' to visit and I suspect he can't take the tough decisions needed to fix the broken economy either.
John Pickworth, Northwest says...
10:23am Tue 20 May 08
Robin said the following about the conservatives...
"The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last."
I agree, they are correctly blaming the Government for everything... because it is Labour who have been in power for more than 11 years and are ultimately responsible for all the problems. And yes, the conservatives are in tune with the mood of the country. Frankly we're as angry as hell about Labour's failed policies but at least the Tories are listening.... pity the same cannot be said of Gordon Brown's bunch.
If Brown cared about how the people were hurting he'd be in Crewe (stuff tradition) but he won't come. He simply won't take the 'tough decision' to visit and I suspect he can't take the tough decisions needed to fix the broken economy either.
"The only policy they seem to have at present is to blame the government for everything. This may be in tune with the mood of the country at present, but there is guarantee that it will last."
I agree, they are correctly blaming the Government for everything... because it is Labour who have been in power for more than 11 years and are ultimately responsible for all the problems. And yes, the conservatives are in tune with the mood of the country. Frankly we're as angry as hell about Labour's failed policies but at least the Tories are listening.... pity the same cannot be said of Gordon Brown's bunch.
If Brown cared about how the people were hurting he'd be in Crewe (stuff tradition) but he won't come. He simply won't take the 'tough decision' to visit and I suspect he can't take the tough decisions needed to fix the broken economy either.
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Robin J., Eastbourne says...
11:48am Fri 16 May 08
I certainly do not.